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08 October 2007

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Jim

A large dual-walled container with a tub of damp-rid in the bottom (like a stove-top smoker setup)could probably get you some decent shelf life on those...

Jim

Hmm... any idea how these stand up to (tempered) chocolate coating?

Chicken Fried Gourmet

Holy crap that is cool, can you do this with wine ?

Awesome post !!!

chadzilla

Jim-- We've never chocolate coated these. They look clean as is, but a hint of chocolate presented well could be nice.
CFG-- Wine does not have enough alcohol for this application.

Jacob Torreblanca did a demo on these in a previous posting. He showed a video of some that were done in Spain that were very elongated, and had other liquids or broken emulsions quite visible inside. They were very cool.
http://chadzilla.typepad.com/chadzilla/2006/10/pastry_demo.html

chadzilla

I forgot to add one note in this process...
The Albert Adria technique requires the cornstarch mold with the syrup cast in it to be flipped one time during the duration of the setting. Obviously this must be done very carefully, and I'm not sure after how many hours (possibly half-way through to be safe).
This will make your candies to be much more uniformly shaped.

Jim

Any idea what the science is behind alcohol content in the recipe? Is there a threshold ABV figure that is required for the pill? Have you tried fortifying liquids with grain alcohol to reach the desired ABV?

Maybe that would work with the eiswein... add the grain neutral spirits to reach the desired ABV. If it dilutes the flavor too much, maybe reduce/concentrate it first then add in the grain so that the grain then dilutes it back to the original intensity. Would take some tweaking...

jason

How stable are these to humidity?

chadzilla

I guess if the amount of alchohol can be estimated without instruments for exact measurement... if you figure that by using 80 proof (40% alcohol) vodka, and convert to estimate how much grain alcohol it would take to get that from a 13 to 15% alcohol wine... guess it could be done, but it may also affect the sugar slightly.

And no, these do not hold up well to humidity... hold them accordingly.

Jim

Well, here are a couple calculators if you know the alcohol concentration needed:
http://www.brewhaus.com/Calculators_s/46.htm

Another idea (if you haven't already done it...)-- have you tried putting the pills into a siphon to try and carbonate them? If you could do that, use a syrup/rum/mint filling for the pill, then carbonate it for a mojito pop. Other carbonated combos could follow...

chris

thanks for the post

Jason

Thanks for the weekend project. I'm going to experiment with other liquors. Tequila pills sound delicious.

Joshua

I have a very severe allergy to corn, so these are a way bad idea for me. On the other hand, I REALLY want to try this! Can someone give me some suggestions on other types are starches that are out there that I could try? That would be awesome, and I'm more than willing to experiment haha.

Seth

Someone said chocolate, and I started thinking of substituting Rumplemintz for the vodka, and dark chocolate coating the candies. I might give that a shot. Hmm, a pun!

Thomas

Sounds like a weekend project for some bored college kids ... Though how sold are they in terms of fragility, and are there any suggestions regarding some sort of edible clearcoat we could use to prolong their lifespan?

Mikel

So it sounds like the only things these need are a hard candy coating (much like a jelly bean) and they would hold up much better to humidity.

Would it be possible to use a sugar coating of some sort, and tumble these in a rock tumbler, much like jelly beans are made? It seems like you could vastly extend the shelf life of these bad boys that way.

Russell

Joshua, Look for a japanese food store and find "katakuriko" which is a potato starch. I haven't tried it with this, but it has a similiar consistancy and feel to corn starch (if I remember right) so it should work.

Luke

How many of these will make you drunk? I don't want to over do it.

Tequila Mockingbird

holy asscrackers! i know what i'm making everyone for christmas presents, and it is NOT oatmeal raisen cookies this year...

all business

Wow, I tried this for the first time and it's a tough project. You are good. I spent too much time trying to get the alcohol content right. I used vanilla vodka and it turned out great. Thanks for the tips.

Corn too

For an alternate starch, try potato. This is more expensive than corn, but the difference may become less with the demain for corn for ethanol. Bob's Red Mill sells potato for $31.50 for 25 lbs (as apposed to $19.99 for corn).

mmmm

Oh man! Use limoncello and you'd have a fantastic lemon drop candy for grown ups!

Big Dicks

This is awesome! I need to try this on my Halloween party. Many thanks for the recipe!

Mount Kelud

Fantastic, I'll prapare this as halloween sweets for kids ;-)

glawton

I'm really hung up on the amount of alcohol put into this. Vodka's usually measured in liters and not grams, so what would the 52.5 grams of vodka be in liters?

J.J.

I was under the impression alcohol burns off or evaporates above room temperature. If you dump vodka into 85C liquid I have a feeling you're going to have a lot of vodka flavored candies with no alcohol. Nothing worse than the pain of vodka without any of the reward.

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